It was comments from TCOLE Deputy Chief TJ Vineyard that drew the attention of unions and lobbying groups representing law enforcement across Texas.
"We're starting to look now at encouraging the consolidation of agencies," Vineyard said during the nearly eight-hour-long hearing.
The response was almost immediate from groups representing various aspects of law enforcement.
One social media post on Facebook from the Texas Law Enforcement Association proclaimed concern about the future of smaller departments across the state, despite an exchange later in the hearing between the committee chair, State Representative Cole Hefner, and TCOLE's Executive Director, Chief Gregory Stevens.
"We're not taking police off the street?" Hefner asked. "We're making sure that we have qualified people that are equipped and trained."
"One hundred percent," Stevens said.
According to TCOLE's own numbers, there are more than 2,700 accredited agencies and some 83,000 peace officers.
The chair asked whether 2,700 was a good or bad thing, given that Texas has more agencies than the next four largest states combined.
"There is a lot of duplicative coverage," Stevens said, "overlapping coverage. When it comes to resources, it can be inefficient."
Also speaking on the panel was Jennifer Szimanski with the Combined Law Enforcement Associations of Texas (CLEAT), which also posted on social media about the hearing. While the group wouldn't comment directly about consolidation, Szimanski told ABC13 that "consolidation is not the legislative intent for TCOLE" and that "we should be forward-looking and raising standards".
But in a conversation with ABC13, Stevens said targeting smaller departments is not their intent. TCOLE wants every department, regardless of size, to comply with the higher standards implemented in 2023.
"Some of the things that are out there surfing out across social media and on other platforms is that TCOLE wants to shut down small agencies and let sheriff's offices take over, and that's absolutely not true. It couldn't be further from what we're doing," Stevens said. "It doesn't matter about the size of the agencies, and I want to be really clear on that point. TECOL is not out to shut down or to make life hard on a small municipal agency, a school district, police department, or what have you."
But the larger conversation is not limited to the state of Texas.
Harris County is home to more than 60 agencies. In the last major study on overlap in 2018, Rice University's Kinder Institute found that consolidation could help address inefficiencies. Kyle Shelton, now at the University of Minnesota, co-authored the report eight years ago.
"It's really just an opportunity to look at how regional governments, which are often overlapping, best coordinate and collaborate on the services that they're providing," Shelton told ABC13.
Whether it's Harris County or the state of Texas, the cost of funding and maintaining law enforcement agencies is getting more expensive. While consolidation may not be the answer, it is part of a conversation in which Kyle Shelton says governments should be engaging.
"It's not a quick band-aid to pull off and say, 'Hey, look, we fixed the budget crisis, or, you know, addressed some efficiencies here in a nice, neat three-month process," Shelton said. "You know, it likely takes years and a lot of trust building, both with residents and the agencies."
Texas does have more law enforcement agencies than the next four largest states combined, according to TCOLE.