If you listen to the folks upset about coffee cups, you may get the feeling that Starbucks hates Christmas because the company's holiday cups were just red -- no Christmas ornaments like Starbucks cups in the past.
Now, one of Southern California's most famous holiday events -- the Hollywood Christmas Parade -- has picked Penn and Teller for its grand marshals.
The duo is known around the world for their comedic magic act and their TV show "Penn & Teller: Fool Us."
But Penn Jillette, the tall blustery part of the team, is a well-known atheist and the author of "Every Day is an Atheist Holiday" and "God, No! Signs You May Already Be An Atheist and Other Magical Tale."
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Jillette has tweeted about the irony of his selection as grand marshal, and in another tweet, he says that Christmas is "just a secular holiday."
Penn and Teller were unavailable for an interview, and we couldn't reach anyone from the Hollywood Christmas Parade to comment.